When my husband is depressed I end up being a caregiver. If this describes you too then it’s important that you have strategies to deal with situations and remain in your normal relationship as much as possible. This is what I want to work through in the next few posts.
I’ve learned over time that my husband James and I can relate to each other in a rational manner even when he is ill. This has been a learning process; it hasn’t always been the case. And I still often feel like I’m walking on egg shells depending on the severity of the episode.
The key strategy that I’ve learned is how to talk to him when he is sick. When he becomes ill he turns into a different person. I say goodbye to my normal husband, so to speak, and hello to depressed husband. In a depressive episode he becomes highly irritable and usually itches for a fight. Early on he will often make comments to bait me. “All I do is work, work, work, to support your lifestyle and your precious social group.” As you can imagine it’s a red rag to a bull.
At this point I have 2 options: take the bait, have a messy fight and accelerate his downswing, or grit my teeth and remember that it’s the illness speaking. If I can do that then I have a much better chance of diffusing the situation. A comment like “You sound stressed about work – let’s talk” has better results and sometimes can even stop a mood swing.
Lately I’ve also been able to say “Let’s talk before you get stuck in a negative cycle of thinking.” This is huge progress for us. It usually results in a fairly sensible conversation.
James says some very hurtful things to me when he’s depressed, but I only tell him how he’s hurt me when he’s better. I wait until he is rational and can deal with it, rather than inflame the situation further when he is ill. I’ve also learned not to take his bait so personally, as I’ve come to recognize it for what it is.
It’s important to know that I couldn’t do this if I didn’t recognize the start of a mood swing. You need to listen to what is really being said before you reply to comments. Is the person sick? Are they really asking for help? Is this a normally held opinion? A few seconds of thought can save a lot of pain.
Next time I can get on the computer I’ll write on learning about the illness and recognizing the early symptoms of a depressed husband.
Know the Enemy is the second post in this series.
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Dawn 18 Sep 2007 @ 10:54 am
Anna,
Thanks so much for the guest post. Depression runs in my family, affects both my twin sister and I, and my single mother is undiagnosed with (but almost certainly suffers from) bipolar disorder. I moved out years ago, but it was difficult to deal with the unpredictability when I was young. I know now that I developed some coping mechanisms that are a strain on our relationship today. I find it hard to bring up sensitive issues with her, as sometimes she reacts with extreme anger. Thus, we’ve never really had a substantive conversation about things like how hard it was on me as a child.
Any advice / thoughts on how to approach this? This issue has more to do with me than with my mom, and it’s not fair to her to not discuss things I really need to talk to her about because I want to protect myself.
Therese 18 Sep 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Anna,
This is so helpful both professionally … to share with other families who suffer with the depressive, but also personally. I’m going to print it up and make Eric read it. Thanks! Therese
Holli Jo 18 Sep 2007 @ 5:50 pm
Anna, this is a wonderful guest post. I have depression myself, so I can feel for the carers. Your understanding and self-control are amazing. I’m not sure I could be that loving if I were the carer instead of the depressed one.
Thanks for sharing your experience and ideas.
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anna 26 Sep 2007 @ 8:12 pm
Hi Eileen,
I agree with your comments. It is essential that the carers point of view is acknowledged, otherwise the resentment builds and the emotional separation starts. That can lead to real relationship difficulties. James and I certainly ended up there and it took a lot of hard work to rebuild the emotional connection. I think what really helped us was that James always apologized after a mood swing if he was mean etc. He has always taken responsibility for his lousy behavior.
Anna
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Virginia 8 Dec 2007 @ 10:34 pm
Hello, I would like to ask the following question. My husband has been previously diagnosed with the “Fight or Flight” Syndrome, he is also a veteran of the Operation Iraqi Freedom war, which means he has P.T.S.D. and on top of all of that he also has O.C.D. (undiagnosed) He always hss to check his truck doors (3) times as well as the front house door 2 times as well as go in and out the door 2 times before he feels that he hasn’t forgotten anything. I also started to do research on all of the symptoms that he had besides the above and I found the book, Stop Walking on EggShells. It is about signs and symptoms of people suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder. Guess What, He has every sign and symptom and attitude off the checklist that they have in the book. However, My question is he also has bouts of depression, the real highs and the real lows, Example: He can leave out the door to work in a very good mood, and come home in a very filthy mood where he leaves you guessing whether it is you or something else. Please help, as I am trying to find coping and healing information and assistance. He is a correctional officer for a sheriff’s office and also a Florida National Guard Reservist, E-6 Sargeant. He drives me insane. Thank God that I have been smart enough to seek help and counseling for myself. I have put my foot down and told him that he needs help otherwise we are getting divorced. He says that he will get help, its just that he is afraid that he will lose his job and he’s afraid to get kicked out of the Florida Army National Guard Reserves after he’s been in for 28 years. Exactly what are the signs and symptoms of Bipolar? Please help. Thanks so much!!!!
james 11 Dec 2007 @ 5:13 pm
Previous comment replied to privately.
Jan 5 May 2008 @ 4:25 pm
I am recently divorced from a bi-polar man with whom I spent almost 40 years. He was diagnosed at least ten years ago as was my oldest daughter. I stayed in the marriage because of my girls and because he threatened over and over again to commit suicide; my concern was what would become of my oldest daughter if he acted on these threats. My daughter is now 29, well educated and beautiful; however, she is getting worse, will not seek help, meds or counseling. She also suffers from PTSD and SAD. As I see in some of the previous postings I am similar to some of those who write; I am a very strong individual who is now on antidepressents myself due to the stress of watching my daughter’s personality turn cruel and abusive to myself and her sister as well as others. She is no longer the individual I raised, she is almost unrecognizable. The more I have helped her the more angry she becomes. We have tried family counseling and her anger is so deep the therapist gave up. My biggest concern is that she now seeks out dangerous relationships as a result of low self esteem. What do other parents do in this situation, Turning my back seems not to be an option.
cathi 26 May 2008 @ 6:24 pm
Dear Anna and James,
Thank you for your informative and hope-inspiring posts and comments. I was raised in a severely abusive home with molestation, physical and emotional abouse and my mom’s early death from cancer as well as the institutionalization of my sister as a result of her cry for help against the molestation. The tragedies don’t end there, but since I was twelve, I have been diagnosed with the following:
PTSD, OCD, Severe depression, bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder and several other “labels”. I have been seeing the most wonderful therapist for thirteen years (I am now 45) I take Zoloft, seroquel and valium. I have lost my mother, sister and two brothers to cancer and my father is drinking himself to death. My son, now 25, has gone through severe trauma himself, at times aggravated my my own mental illness and alcoholism (recovering since 1988) I am so grateful that my therapist has insisted I drop all “labels” from myself and recognize that for what I’ve been through, my symptoms/reactions are perfectly “normal” As I’ve been able to accept myself, as I am, willing to change and be changed at all times, a tremendous amount of healing has taken place. I have never been in a successful intimate relationship and this is one of my dreams. I can’t explain to my friends, family or “dates” my “problem,” because they simply cannot relate. I have been on disability for 8 years, after completing several years of college with a 4.0 g.p.a. I have been an overachiever for most of my life, but have never been so sure that I know less each day of my life than I thought I knew. I hope to be able to afford a copy of this book as soon as possible in hopes that my family and loved ones will take the time to read it. I have given up hope that they will understand, but I’d like to understand better myself, for the sake of my son. My husband “left” me in 1988 as a result of my mental illness (he continues to call me “crazy” I ran my own business successfully for years, and I am a published author. However, for almost a decade I have been to “sick” to work, shop, visit friends or at times even leave the house. I question the mental health professional(s) who have been treating me due to the variety of “diagnoses” and MANY medications over the years, since I was twelve… mellaril, desyrel, halcion, ambien, zoloft, seroquel, valium, xanax, prozac, and many others I can’t remember off the top of my head. (sp on all?) I have tried “quitting” medication several times and have been held on four 5150 holds in my lifetime, the last time for 28 days. The state was going to “conserve” me. I am unable to get Medical without an almost 500.00 a month share of cost. At times I go without food to get my medication. Please give me any advice and encouragement you might have regarding myself, my son and those who don’t understand us. So many people have believed, and still believe, that I am a “strong” woman, but I know just how powerless I am over the emotional tornadoes that have, and could, wreak havoc on my life. Thank you again for the posts, please send me any literature you have which might be helpful to me or my loved ones. God bless you and keep you while we trudge this road to happy destiny…intended for ALL men, women and children.
cathi
anna 1 Jun 2008 @ 5:56 pm
Hi Cathi,
Sad to hear that life has been difficult for you but I am inspired by your ability to persevere. We have found that education is the key to getting help and improving relationships. We have spent enormous amounts of time reading books and articles often only getting one or two things from each. Can I suggest that you read all you can with a discerning mind, ignoring the stuff that you know will not work for you. It is also good to focus on stay well material ie strategies to keep well that are not just “take your medicine”, essential that it is. When we changed focus from trying to find a cure to trying to stay well we really made progress.
Hope that helps.
Anna
amy 13 Feb 2010 @ 6:00 am
hello , i have a loved one who has bipolar. we can never get along and i was wondering if there was a class i can take to learn more about it and how to talk to him because he goes off on me all the time. thank you for taking the time to read this …amy
james 17 Feb 2010 @ 3:00 pm
Amy,
I don’t know of any classes, but there is a good resource for learning about bipolar at http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/public/resources/bipolareducationprogram.cfm.
kevin blumer 7 Dec 2010 @ 4:03 am
its rally nice to see someone who really cares about there other half its really good that you can actualy help him plus you have a strategy whitch helps its a lot if everybody knew how to deal with people with depression it would help my partner just left me when i was diagnosed with bpd and i was going threw my deppresion and i had to take it hand in hand by myself
Nicole 14 Dec 2010 @ 3:47 am
Anna,
Thanks for this. I’m still a teenager and my friend has just been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I’d really like to be there for her, because she means alot to me but I don’t know how. This helped – I will be sure to take your advice to heart. Simply by reading this article it appears to me that you are a very strong woman, with fantastic devotion. Not alot of people would have the decency and love to do what you are doing.
Estriol 26 Jan 2011 @ 1:00 am
**` I am really thankful to this topic because it really gives great information `–
crystal 29 Mar 2011 @ 12:39 pm
I enjoyed reading your blog, i am only 27 yrs old , i have a depressed husband and i am looking for as much insite as possible. This is new for me and my emotions are all over the place. When he used to have his episodes i would feed into his words and the result would be an arguement. Now i try to let it go and not take it personal but i still feel scared, i feel as though at any moment he is going to walk out and leave. I feel i am doing everything i can do to make him happy but when he is in a depressed state nothing i do is good enough. It’s like walking on eggshells like u said. How do i cope with this situation?
Pringles 14 Aug 2011 @ 5:10 pm
Hi there!
I am married to a man who has been diagnosed with anxiety and depression”. It was after our wedding, months after, that he manifested his illness..We seek help already, for 2 years now He is in medication for his anxiety which is Alprazolam. Just this 2 months ago that he made recovery with a help of a friend, who happens to be a girl..Then our problem started..I became so jealous with their friendship and I was blinded by it..for which he insists that there is nothing special going on between them..but I still get jealous and shows him this feeling..Now, he has relapsed, he is now depressed again and I blame myself for this..He is angry at me though he does not want to admit it…When he talk to me in an angry tone,, my reaction would be to be silent and just listen to him, but apparently he does not want the silence, it seems to him that I am insensitive towards his feelings..I don’t know how to talk to him anymore since it might just lead us to a fight..What shall I do? pls,,help..thanks
dub 4 Sep 2011 @ 8:00 pm
hey.
married.
apparently he is depressed and on is on avanza….. seen a slight mood lift.
but i wonder is he just being an ass and getting away with it – flying under the depression umbrella??
i know a big call
but the selfishness, irresponsibility, lake of insight, the picking a fight, the put her down in front of friends, the correct her all the time, the lake of respect – is this depression or assholeness (excuse my language)???
how much do i have to take?
if i do not stay then i feel guilty, if i stay then what a life i have to look forward too
psychology appts start next week, i hope they help because this sux
pepina 5 Sep 2011 @ 1:16 pm
hi pringles. understand the guilt. i am allegedly responsible for all sorts of illicit behavior. apparently he is not sufficient for me and i need other men. ok, that is nuts. be sure to get counsel for yourself. read and re-read the above. this author has wonderful advice. but protect yourself. you are his wife! no other female should be involved.
pepina 5 Sep 2011 @ 1:20 pm
i don’t mean the author has wonderful advise but protect yourself. sounds strange how i worded that. i is late. she HAS wonderful advice. i am taking notes! thank you, Anna.
and in addition you should protect yourself. take care of you. that is your first priority. if you cannot function you cannot help someone else!
over it 7 Sep 2011 @ 1:09 pm
Being married to a person with depression is a miserable existence it is unsustainable, soul destroying and exhausting. never again
dee 12 Sep 2011 @ 10:48 am
Right now I completely relate to this last comment. It is exactly how I feel. The article was a good one for me to read. I know I need to try harder to be caring and to help to stop the cycle of negative thinking. But at some point, it’s like – I seriously cannot go through this. Again. Every time its the same thing. He is irritable, perhaps even specifically trying to bait me. Or else he is obsessing about the same things which usually involve things that I am doing (as with many people with depression, my husband has some obsessive-compulsive tendencies, anxiety disorder etc.) And I feel the need to defend myself. Which, of course, just accelerates his pattern of negative thinking, and then on top of feeling exhausted and unhappy I feel guilty. Because there I go again being such a shitty wife. I can’t seem to get it through my head that this selfish and mean spirited man that I live with is ill. I mean, I know that to be the case, but when you live it each and every day, the pain and resentment just burns through me. He says that I don’t care and that I am unsupportive, and maybe this has become true. I am so tired. We have now been married five years, and he has been depressed since we first met 9 years ago. He refuses to get help – well, there have been lots of false starts with getting help, but he doesn’t follow through. I just don’t know how people find the strength to be so good as to help their spouses through every depressive episode, especially as the depressive episodes overtake the periods of non-depressive states of being. I guess, at some point along the way, I have stopped believing he will ever take responsibility for getting better at that was the point maybe where I also started trying less. I feel like the only answer is get out now.
pepina 15 Sep 2011 @ 1:33 pm
if he is not seeking and holding fast to help then you may have no choice. could be a separation would wake him up to reality. if not, do what you need to to protect yourself. don’t be taken down.
Shannon 21 Nov 2011 @ 12:49 pm
I don’t know if this is helpful to anyone, but as a result of high stress for many years on the job, I came down with chronic fatigue and deep depression. My VA doctor had me taking 12 different anti-depressants but none really worked. I asked someone working in a vitamin supplement aisle at a local market about it and she suggested using lavender essential oil. IT WORKED!!!
I have learned that getting a 1oz bottle and putting 2-3 eye droppers of lavender essential oil into it and filling the rest of it with jojoba oil. When I feel depression coming on I put a few drops on one wrist (a pulse point) and rub my wrists together and the depression dissipates.
My depression has become less and less frequent. I don’t know that this would work for everyone but it is worth a try. It is a low cost and convenient way to deal with depression.
Please, if this works for you, spread the word.
kris 1 Jan 2012 @ 11:18 am
I am 41 years old and desperately trying to reach out to people that feel the way I feel. I have always felt depressed since I can remember, but this year seems to be much worse. I struggle with overeating when I am deeply depressed. I am remarried and have been with my husband now for 13 1/2 years. My son is 15 1/2 and a major concern of mine is that my depression will be passed onto him. Can I get as many blogs and helpful information from any one that may know. thank you
S 2 Jan 2012 @ 9:47 am
Thanks so much for this site.
I have been married for 26 years to a depressed male. I have searched for years for the “key” to try to unlock the moods that take over my husband. I read with interest the “baiting” that others experience. I have had that for as long as I can remember. I have over the last maybe 10 years come to the conclusion that I’m very very weak – because I let that baiting continue – I even remember my own mothers words once “she wont say anything – just watch”- big lol . Just lately I have decided it isnt a weakness – its a coping mechanism.
Anyway – the real reason I am here today is because I think I have learned something which might be helpful to others. Ever since ever these events have always gone on until I bring on an argument. Not just any argument, the biggest, nastiest, most horrible argument. A time when stuff that can never be taken back gets said. There is not an insult on the planet that my husband hasnt thrown at me. What I realized today is this – The argument is what he needs to show everyone (including me) why he has been so “angry”. Its an effort(maybe subconcious on his part) to look sane. He wants the world know how “angry”he has been – and that he is feeling better now.
This is exhausting to me – I cant be bothered with it anymore.
Good luck all -
ess 6 Feb 2012 @ 10:23 pm
i have recently started dating a person. (4 months). Things were great till about a week ago. she had a big stress in her life that became a reality. Now I am being shut out. From big love to she could not be bothered to text me or even just reply. hi. I am reading up on the desease and has come to realize that it is the illness.. however i am the person that wants to sort everything out right now. cant go to bed mad. so for her to just shut down and not speak to me is very hurtfull for me and somewhat of an emotional abuse on me. i think she is also in denial about being depressed. she has never used that word. i guess she is ashamed. do i try and find it in me to stay with this person which i love. or should i run.. X
Marla Jo Zeller 15 Feb 2012 @ 9:34 pm
Love her. She needs you to love her and research everything you can find on the subject to be able to help her. She may not be able to help herself right now and God may have put you in her life for this very purpose. It will not be easy but if you love her, you can do it. Do it until you just simply can’t do it any longer. Give it all you’ve got.
Morning Glory 26 Feb 2012 @ 11:28 pm
The hard thing for me, that I have just now (after 30 years of marriage!) begun to internalize and accept, is that when he is depressed, I cannot expect our relationship to be mutual. In other words, if he wants to yell at me about how something I said hurt or upset him, in cases where he misinterprets or overreacts, I cannot expect him to be open to explanations or analysis of the *interaction* that led to the problem, or what I really meant, or how his behavior is impacting me. It is simply not going to be a matter of give-and-take. I used to frustrate myself to anger and tears trying to get him to hear me and understand my feelings, to no avail. Now I am swallowing it, which I think is a much better strategy for dealing with the immediate situation, but I don’t yet know how to make it OK within myself. I have to adjust to this reality.
Caught 10 Mar 2012 @ 7:40 am
I’ve been married over a decade to my wonderful husband. We have 3 kids; ages 8, 6, and 2. He lost his job 9 months ago; I continued to advance at work. He started drinking heavily 2 months ago and ended up making out with a friend of mine 3 weeks ago. Two days ago our youngest is diagnosed as a special needs kid (hearing loss). Now he blames him cause he “never” wanted 3 kids. I can’t deal with my own feelings cause as soon as I get angry at him for kissing my friend – he goes into this downward spiral. So I rely on my friends, but I miss talking with my best friend. Not sure he should even be responsible for our 2 year old; is it overreacting to put him in daycare?
What happened to my strong, opinionated man? I’m left with an emotional blob, that I still love with all my heart. Is depression contagous? I feel like I’ve caught it.
nina 16 Mar 2012 @ 9:59 am
Hi, this is a message for all those who are in a relationship with a depressed spouse and who r not yet married. I wish I had known the distress and devastation depression has on your life. I was with my depressed partner for 14 years. In that time I was by his side through, cyclical depressive episodes, unemployment, money problems and isolation from family, and friends. I stuck by him. But the chronic stress had a profound negative effect on me. To the point that I became depressed, and suicidal. I did not look after myself. I put him before me. In the end I was left a broken woman. Life passed me by. The dream of kids and owning my own home were dashed. I am now too old to even hope to have those things. I wish I ne ver stayed with him, I am so full of regret that I valued my life so little that I let it be destroyed. Please, to all those carers out there….don’t try and fix your depressed spouse, don’t end up like me. Find somebody healthy that you can share your life with…
Lost and alone 13 May 2012 @ 9:06 am
I have been married 3 years to my husband who last year was diagnosed with long term depression and anxiety. He has not socialised with his friends since diagnosis. It is just me in his life. He is highly irritable and as other posters, insults me, manipulates situations so he can blame a feeling of anger on me. He stopped therapy and is in denial. I am a carer, not a wife. His anger is violent and my behaviors are changing because I can’t cope with the pain that is never acknowledged. I feel so alone….
Here 13 May 2012 @ 12:45 pm
@Lost and alone – You are not alone. Reach out for help either on online support groups or at local NAMI or other in-person support. Or go to counseling yourself to make sure your needs are being met. I share your pain!
Meg 29 Sep 2012 @ 9:16 am
Anna,
When you say, “Let’s talk before you get into a negative cycle of thinking”, how specifically are you able to talk him through or out of his negative thought patterns? My husband has been diagnosed with depression in the past, feels counceling hasn’t helped him much and that the side effects of the medication are more problimatic than the medicine is helpful. I tend to agree with him in regards to the medicine, since it seems to raise his blood pressure which is already an issue. It seems to be up to me to support how I can, but when I try to point out positives in our life he feels defensive and it seems like I’m denying his feelings, or not understanding him. I have been depressed in the past so i do have an idea of what it feels like, and a friend was so much more helpful to me than any councelor, but I can’t seem to do the same for the man i love so much. We have two kids and it breaks my heart when he brushes them off, or says negative things about them when really they are just normal kids acting their age. It makes me sad for both them and him that he can’t enjoy them, but when I point out great things about them he seems to feel I’m making them up or exagerating. That’s when I have a hard time not responding to his negativity, if he says our 15 month old cried all day when in reality he was pleasant all day while my husband slept with the door shut, and then just started whining at the end of the day when i woke my husband for dinner, I defend the baby and we end up in a full scale argument. I adore my husband but am tired of this behavior, but if I bring it up wioth him it makes things worse, because he feels guilty and goes into what a lousy husband and father he is, really he’s a great husband and father, but I’m just having a hard time figuring out how to communicate with him right now. Specific suggestions would be welcome.
MKS 2 Oct 2012 @ 5:51 am
How similar your original post is… walking on eggs. I’ve changed much about my personality over the years (30+) in an effort to maintain status quo. As we age his depression grows deeper. Heck, Lexapro is my daily habit now and don’t think I could subsist without it now. I tune so much out and love my work and great hobbies now. He is obsessed with working out, his church (generally daily) and finances. I’ve gotten to where I don’t want to go to church with him any longer. I feel like I am going to be criticized with whatever we do together so I don’t want to do much with him. I enjoy my own company. lol I am going to suggest for him to go back to the therapist we have used for years.