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	<title>Comments on: Art by the Mentally Ill</title>
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	<description>A Positive Approach to Mental Health</description>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.findingoptimism.com/blog/reviews/art-by-the-famous-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-19506</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see the point of this sort of thing to show that many famous people - and therefore many people - suffer from mental illnesses. And that just because you have a mental illness doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t be a productive, valued and memorable member of society.

However, the inversion that I&#039;ve seen pointed out is a valid one - the idea that artists must be suffering from some sort of mental illness to be that way. I say this not because it&#039;s a bad label, which I suppose it is, but because it reduces the personal toll to one of servitude.

&quot;Well, Van Gogh was unhappy his whole life but look at these wonderful paintings he produced.&quot;

This idea of ups and downs - where we get the up and they get the down - is problematic. If Van Gogh was sad for his whole life, then it wasn&#039;t worth it - no matter what paintings we get to enjoy because of it. More than a few people have expressed the same sentiment to me when I&#039;m feeling down, about it being &quot;good material&quot;, and I&#039;m not going to be Van Gogh in any month of Sundays.

It also creates a dichotomy whether you&#039;re an artist or not, the idea that your life is somehow good because you did good - even if it felt like a living hell. It creates a cycle of self-sacrifice instead of looking for help.

Anyway, I do like this blog post a lot but agree that the message can be taken in two ways - good and bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the point of this sort of thing to show that many famous people &#8211; and therefore many people &#8211; suffer from mental illnesses. And that just because you have a mental illness doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t be a productive, valued and memorable member of society.</p>
<p>However, the inversion that I&#8217;ve seen pointed out is a valid one &#8211; the idea that artists must be suffering from some sort of mental illness to be that way. I say this not because it&#8217;s a bad label, which I suppose it is, but because it reduces the personal toll to one of servitude.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, Van Gogh was unhappy his whole life but look at these wonderful paintings he produced.&#8221;</p>
<p>This idea of ups and downs &#8211; where we get the up and they get the down &#8211; is problematic. If Van Gogh was sad for his whole life, then it wasn&#8217;t worth it &#8211; no matter what paintings we get to enjoy because of it. More than a few people have expressed the same sentiment to me when I&#8217;m feeling down, about it being &#8220;good material&#8221;, and I&#8217;m not going to be Van Gogh in any month of Sundays.</p>
<p>It also creates a dichotomy whether you&#8217;re an artist or not, the idea that your life is somehow good because you did good &#8211; even if it felt like a living hell. It creates a cycle of self-sacrifice instead of looking for help.</p>
<p>Anyway, I do like this blog post a lot but agree that the message can be taken in two ways &#8211; good and bad.</p>
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		<title>By: John hogan</title>
		<link>http://www.findingoptimism.com/blog/reviews/art-by-the-famous-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-16756</link>
		<dc:creator>John hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have schiziophrenia, I have an arts degree, I was aprofessional illustrator now im a full time painter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have schiziophrenia, I have an arts degree, I was aprofessional illustrator now im a full time painter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Crawford</title>
		<link>http://www.findingoptimism.com/blog/reviews/art-by-the-famous-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-16691</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there.
I was diagnosed schizophrenic in 2002 and I&#039;m also an aspie.
Just thought I&#039;d show you some of my work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there.<br />
I was diagnosed schizophrenic in 2002 and I&#8217;m also an aspie.<br />
Just thought I&#8217;d show you some of my work.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.findingoptimism.com/blog/reviews/art-by-the-famous-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-6248</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 06:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Here&#039;s a link to a mentally ill artist group.
http://www.etsy.com/teams/9141/crazyartbycrazies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Here&#8217;s a link to a mentally ill artist group.<br />
<a href="http://www.etsy.com/teams/9141/crazyartbycrazies" rel="nofollow">http://www.etsy.com/teams/9141/crazyartbycrazies</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shubhadarshini Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.findingoptimism.com/blog/reviews/art-by-the-famous-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-6179</link>
		<dc:creator>Shubhadarshini Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you talk to god its a prayer when god talks to you its schizophrenia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you talk to god its a prayer when god talks to you its schizophrenia</p>
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		<title>By: Shubhadarshini Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.findingoptimism.com/blog/reviews/art-by-the-famous-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-6178</link>
		<dc:creator>Shubhadarshini Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now psychopharmacological drugs make them &quot;sane&quot; or sedated... and the creativity slips away...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now psychopharmacological drugs make them &#8220;sane&#8221; or sedated&#8230; and the creativity slips away&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the best example of a living artist who embraces his mental illness is the sculptor Killian Skarr. He&#039;ll be the first to admit he&#039;s completely out of his skull and believe me, it shows...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the best example of a living artist who embraces his mental illness is the sculptor Killian Skarr. He&#8217;ll be the first to admit he&#8217;s completely out of his skull and believe me, it shows&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.findingoptimism.com/blog/reviews/art-by-the-famous-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-4997</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched &quot;My Name Is Alan and I Paint Pictures&quot;, about the mentally ill artist Alan Streets. The film addresses the therapeutic benefits of art for mental illness. Alan Streets is deeply affected with Paranoid Schizophrenia and he is unable to interact with people. His paintings are sold online. http://www.alanstreetsstore.com  
Check out some cuts of the documentary on youtube. 
http://www.youtube.com/user/rawfilmsonline#p/c/A04151BA10EA7521/3/jKsjQzDv9sc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched &#8220;My Name Is Alan and I Paint Pictures&#8221;, about the mentally ill artist Alan Streets. The film addresses the therapeutic benefits of art for mental illness. Alan Streets is deeply affected with Paranoid Schizophrenia and he is unable to interact with people. His paintings are sold online. <a href="http://www.alanstreetsstore.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alanstreetsstore.com</a><br />
Check out some cuts of the documentary on youtube.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/rawfilmsonline#p/c/A04151BA10EA7521/3/jKsjQzDv9sc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/rawfilmsonline#p/c/A04151BA10EA7521/3/jKsjQzDv9sc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Laylaartcom</title>
		<link>http://www.findingoptimism.com/blog/reviews/art-by-the-famous-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-4920</link>
		<dc:creator>Laylaartcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 21:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the weeping woman that Picasso had painted had Schizophrenia, not him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the weeping woman that Picasso had painted had Schizophrenia, not him.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Karen mumsy

I agree that saying all artists have a mental illness is wrong. I myself am an artist. Art, however; is not about talking to God. Maybe for certain artists...but being an artist is connecting to your own unique beliefs. If that is Christian influenced or Muslim influence, that is to that unique individual. I am an atheist and I am whole-heartedly devoted to my connection with the universe via knowledge and emotion; which is dedicated to hopes and admiration for the human race as well as discovery of time and space. 

So you are making a catagory mistake just as the people who have stated that artists have mental illness. Not all art is about connecting to a deity. For some, it&#039;s different. If you are going to criticize, do not be hypoctritical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Karen mumsy</p>
<p>I agree that saying all artists have a mental illness is wrong. I myself am an artist. Art, however; is not about talking to God. Maybe for certain artists&#8230;but being an artist is connecting to your own unique beliefs. If that is Christian influenced or Muslim influence, that is to that unique individual. I am an atheist and I am whole-heartedly devoted to my connection with the universe via knowledge and emotion; which is dedicated to hopes and admiration for the human race as well as discovery of time and space. </p>
<p>So you are making a catagory mistake just as the people who have stated that artists have mental illness. Not all art is about connecting to a deity. For some, it&#8217;s different. If you are going to criticize, do not be hypoctritical.</p>
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